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Nice, Steve. Vernon Smith gives an example with airline deregulation. No one saw the hub and spoke system coming. That's a rather simple pattern and you might have expected "pattern prediction" could have anticipated it. Nope. We all missed it, including the great Alfred Kahn who designed the deregulation. In my mind we're talking about the noncomputability of the future. As regulars on this blog know, I think that we should all be running out to learn all about Velupillai's "computable economics" to better understand such noncomputability.

I don't think you said anything I would disagree with. But I wonder whether you might be implicitly understating the design problem with "deregulation" and pro-market policy. We have a mixed system with all sorts of bad things such as licensing restriction and regulatory agencies. That's a fact on the ground. Presumably, if such measures had never been adopted, all would be for the best in the best of all possible economies. But there they are, those unfortunate interventions. It's not so easy to unravel those "interventions." Simply lifting them off one by one will likely have bad unintended consequences which will sometimes be worse than the problems created by the original restriction. Vernon Smith provides an example once again, namely, deregulation of electrical power markets. He pinpoints the flaws nicely. The point here, though, is that piecemeal deregulation creates the risk of problems like those created by the partial deregulation of electric power markets. Lifting all restrictions at the same time is hardly an option either, I think. (I'm not even sure what that would mean.) If we could somehow do that, I think we'd have a situation parallel to post-Soviet Russia, including so strong a short-run decline in output and coordination that life expectancy would fall. All the private services crowded out by government bureaus and regulations would be missing for while and lots of folks would suffer greatly in the wake of total deregulation. (Again, whatever that could even mean!)

So what? So we have to think harder about how to get there from here. We have to think harder about the design problems of deregulation. Computable economics shows us that the epistemic perils of *de*regulation are no less than those of regulation. Thus, we need to work out really carefully how we going to unwind the system. Vernon Smith's techniques of "economic systems design" are vital to working out the design problems of deregulation. There is a lot of work to do.

Great stuff! Right before reading this I read this (http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/03/what-small-government-looks-like/) attempt by Krugman at being pithy. Thanks for brightening my mood.

I agree completely Roger. The mixed economy is a ticking bomb and defusing it requires cutting the right wires in the right order. It is possible to make matters worse through the wrong sorts of "partial" deregulation. As a matter of political reality, it will happen step by step and we best be careful which wires we cut when.

Knowledge and Decisions is a great book. I commented on a draft of it. Later, Liberty Fund did a conference on it.

I used to use it in my undergraduate Law&Economics class at NYU. I emphasized the argument in the passage Steve cites.

We do have a mixed economy and I take Roger's points. But I don't how you can plan deregulation: it's an oxymoron.

As Hayek detailed in The Road to Serfdom, regulation leads to a dynamic in which each regulation creates distortions leading to the need for further regulation.

Murry Rothbard argued, correctly I believe, that dergugulation sets up the same kind of dynamic in reverse. It will be unpredictable and messy (like liberalization in Eastern Europe). You must press forward and not flag in your effots.

Jerry,

You said, "I don't how you can plan deregulation: it's an oxymoron." I'm just channeling Vernon Smith and his group on economic systems design. Designing deregulation in electric power market is one of his big illustrations of economic systems design. They wrote an article on it for Cato. http://www.cato.org/pubs/journal/cj21n3/cj21n3-11.pdf. See also his 2008 book on Rationality in Economics. FCC frequency auctions are another example. You need design to replace the evolutionary process that was aborted by regulation or other interventions. That's a tall order, which is why you need the experimental economics lab to "test bed" your design.

The California energy crisis of 2000 and 2001 is a perfect illustration of cutting the wrong wire first, in Steve's nice metaphor. Basically, they snipped the wholesale wire, but not the retail wire and the result was rolling blackouts.

I must confess, I do not share your "press forward" doctrine. Like David Hume, I favor muddling through. America's Declaration of Independence expresses the thought nicely: "Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. "

For what it's worth, there's a similar passage in "The Vision of the Anointed:" "Since capitalism was named by its enemies, it is perhaps not surprising that the name is completely misleading. Despite its name, capitalism is not an 'ism.' It is not a philosopher but an economy. Ultimately it is nothing more and nothing less than an economy not run by political authorities. There are no capitalist institutions; any number of institutional ways of carrying out economic activities may flourish under 'capitalism' - that is, in he absence of control from above." This is on page 207 of the softcover edition.

Roger,

I counter with a very famous quote: "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice; and moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue."

Okay. I don't mind disagreeing with Hess and Goldwater.

"Great stuff! Right before reading this I read this (http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/03/what-small-government-looks-like/) attempt by Krugman at being pithy. Thanks for brightening my mood.

Posted by: Bill Dupre | February 03, 2010 at 11:14 AM"

I wonder if there was ever a time when Co. Springs had all those things, but provided privately?

Roger,

Those were the days.:)

Thank you for making a clear and lucid point. Many of my liberal friends seem to think that a "market" is something or someone--that is, an entity with volition. In their minds, a "market" as a whole decides who gets what. As you note, essays like "I, Pencil" get the point across wonderfully.

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