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What a shame Ben is leaving SJ state. The Austrian presence is the reason I'm attending in the fall. What a blow.

Furor principum ad nauseam usque. Nemo, quamvis sit prudens, est, quin cottidie multa addiscere possit.

Does abuse written in Latin really help?

Please grow up. And who the hell are you anyway?

Vescere bracis meis

I can't detect any abuse in my post above. It is absolutely not my problem if you feel embarassed when somebody uses Latin. For you in English:

Self praise is no recommendation.

As Walter Williams always says, "A dog that doesn't wag its own tail is not much of a dog."

And I don't consider it really self-praise because the credit all goes to the individuals I mention. But the reality is that never before in the history of the Austrian school experience in America have so many young scholars taught in PhD programs and had a major influence in shaping those programs.

This is a sign of progress. You don't have to get on-board, but it might be wise to step back a minute and look at what is being accomplished and realize how it is being accomplished. I think that was the point of what Pete was trying to say to the students coming after him.

It is not an issue of self-praise, it is an issue of celebrating accomplishment by individuals who are making an impact at such a young age. With such dynamic young individuals taking the lead, Austrian ideas have a shot that in the hands of the generation before them (mine) didn't get very far in the academic world.

I am just an older guy now telling everyone to make room for the next generation, they are succeeding where we failed. And to me this is the most exciting thing to watch that I could imagine. Perhaps Pearl doesn't want to see progress because it is more comfortable for some to see Austrianism as a movement that cannot succeed and thus its advocates must adopt the martyr attitude, rather than the attitude of achievement. I, for one, don't think we need any more martyrs, what we need is lots of examples of scientific success and progress in thought and application.

Ben's been on Showtime and quoted in the NYT on sweatshops; Leeson has been on fellowships to Harvard and LSE and published in top journals; Coyne's book will be the featured item in the Stanford University Press catalogue next fall; Beaulier has been invited to U of Penn to discuss his work on Botswana; and Storr's work was nominated for the best dissertation in Caribean studies. This isn't just insider Austrian/libertarian awards, but professional recognition that only comes from accomplished work. Professional recognitions that were all too rare in the previous generation of young Austrians. So if that isn't cause for celebration, then I really don't know what all this "movement" talk is about.

No, martyrs are not what we need; ambitious, accomplished, talented, and articulate scientists, scholars, and teachers is what we are looking for. And what a young crop we have found over the past 5 years and they happened to come out of GMU's program. We really just need to get out of the way and watch what these guys can do. It is a very exciting time for Austrian economists. I am betting on the future!

Despite what he thinks he just wrote, I think Pearl's Latin phrase actually means something like: "The disgusting madness of princes. No one, no matter how wise they may be, can't learn a lot every day."

I see nothing about self-praise or recommendations.

Here, here Pete. You've done a fantastic job. You're a bit too optimistic, as I've always claimed, but you are accomplishing EXACTLY what you've set out to accomplish, and I can't fault you on that. You've done it with integrity and with great joy. Good for you, and your scholarly offspring. Let the dogs, on the other hand, return to their own vomit.

Your pal the now irrelevant "you know who I am."

"The disgusting madness of princes. No one, no matter how wise they may be, can't learn a lot every day."

Furor principum would be more translated by "megalomania" and ad nauseam usque by "over and over again". You can translate them differently as well, but that's the distinction between interpreting and translating. But who cares, the message is the same.

The only thing written in this blog (by Boettke) is the almost ridiculous claim that GMU is the best place to study economics (the mayor of Des Moines, Iowa could also claim that his city is the best place to live). In addition, some GMU kids are going to teach economics at some (partial above the average)colleges and he is talking about AE at Harvard. I agree that GMU is still underrated with regard to its "official" ranking but the claims on this site are completely misleading. Due to the overpowering presence of GMU people in the blogosphere, one could really believe that it is the academic reality. So, some down-to-earth attitude is desperately needed. Hope, Frédéric Sautet writes again on the blog; at least, it is not only about self promotion of papers and self praise of GMU's outstanding place in economics.

A looser, more concise translation of the whole thing would be: "The delusions of omniscience that powerful leaders have make me sick." It's not about megalomania, which is the delusion of omnipotence (and a classical Greek word to boot, so why you didn't quote some Greek instead: Are you not fluent in that language too?).

I think PB was just being proud of his students and suggesting that future Austrians will climb higher up the academic ladder than his generation ever did. That's not objectionable at all. It certainly does seem that GMU is having a lot of success producing successive generations of Austrian scholars. And as for Harvard, as someone else put it the other night, you don't run for second.

No, unfortunately I do not master Ancient Greek, but I think that my Latin is pretty good. I know exactly that "furor principum" describes some specific form of megalomania and paranoia (certain roman emperors, etc.) But your fake email tells me that you what I'm talking about. Nevertheless, I think that it is pretty clear which allusions I intended to put forward. And yeah, I speak several foreign languages. Are you impressed?

> Are you impressed?

Not with your Latin, no, if I'm being honest. Sorry.

"No, unfortunately I do not master Ancient Greek,"

Nor English it appears.

By the way Pearl, I said "best weird place to study economics", I didn't say "best place." In other posts I said the best place to study is the highest ranked program that will pay your full way to go there.

Now I happen to believe that what makes us weird at GMU is also what makes us the best place to study. But not everyone shares that view and if you don't then I would suggest attending one of the top 10 programs (which are well known in standard rankings).

Nor English it appears.

Because I put an "A" in ancient Greek? Obviously, English is not my native language, what's the big deal? Ad hominem arguments suck by any means.

Pearl, your English is great. It's your Latin that's the problem. I nearly wrote in an earlier post that you should avoid the "ad hominem" reply, and find it really funny that you've inappropriately used another Latin phrase.

Ok, this topic is not really about Latin issues, but I just would like to know why "ad hominem" is inappropiately used.

I hate to quote Wikipedia but:

argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the person", "argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument by attacking or appealing to the person making the argument, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument.

Making fun of my English falls in this category, imho.

NotanAustrian clearly wasn't attacking any argument. He or she was merely pointing out the irony of your making a mistake in English while explaining the you don't know Greek (you misused the word "master"). He or she was not conducting any kind of "ad hominem" attack on you. But in this case I think you understand what the Latin phrase means but displyed (and continue to display) a basic lack understanding of how actually to use it.

None of my business, and I'm clearly having fun and wasting way too much time with your Latin nonsense, but my advice to you is to stay away from dead languages. And unless you're prepared to take a bit of heat without looking for sanctuary in an "ad hominem" defense, try being a little less rude, insulting and abusive in future.

Thank you very much for your wise explanation. But why can't you say "master ancient Greek" in a phrase. Google told me that even pages like the University of Maryland or the RecruiterMagazine used it in that way.

I will nevertheless stick to my Latin expressions given that I don't want to admit that 8 years of Latin were for nothing.

"To master" means "to become proficient at" not "to be proficient at."

You English is great, though. It's your manners you need to work on.

I can't believe Hampden-Sydney is losing Coyne. I don't know if the rumors I heard were true, but that department is losing an amazing professor.

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